i was looking at the orange 224 and other downhill bikes and thy only have small frames about 17", with me being 6 foot 5 i need a big frame. does the frame size matter when you are doing downhill? im not sure but i guess you have a smaller frame so it is easier to move on the bike, is that right?

ye it matters you need a fairly big bike with a long wheel base for downhil to roll over stuff and stay planted a freeride sort of bike is generally a little smaller with a shorter wheelbase and tighter angles to make it more manouverable for techy stuff and jumping and stuff lol

my demo 8 only differs in length of the top tube for a sm,med,lrg size frame,
there didnt seem to be any difference in standover height between the sizes

so could i use a 17" frame? because its the biggest they do or would i need a bigger frame?

Steve Peat is about 6' 3 and rode a small Orange 224????

that is what i was thinking, can afford one just yet, as they cost £4200 but ill be saving up.

think you can get better bikes for the money really

i prefer the 223's aswell

sure l seen a pic of a 244 somewhere.

which bike would you say is the best for youre money?